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In the first episode of Bright Blue’s political podcast, Laura Round is joined by columnist and Bright Blue chair Matt D’Ancona, Conservative MP for Wells James Heappey, and senior political correspondent at the Times Lucy Fisher. Sam Hall also joins the podcast from the Bright Blue Green conservatism conference.

The guests discuss the ongoing debate around universal credit, the upcoming budget and whether tackling intergenerational fairness should be a key focus for the Chancellor and Bright Blue’s Green conservatism conference. Laura also announces the Moderniser of the Month.