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This edition of our Heads apart? podcast asks: How should post-Brexit Britain defend itself? We explore the impact of NATO and EU on our defence capabilities and discuss whether the UK’s status as an intervening world power are now truly over. We are joined by Simon Jenkins, Guardian columnist and author of Mission Accomplished? The Crisis of International Intervention, and James Rogers, founding member of the Henry Jackson Society and the Director of their Global Britain Programme.

Political analysis today can be shouty and superficial, with people shaming and stereotyping those who disagree with them. We defiantly take a different approach. Our podcast brings together people with different views to engage in respectful, thoughtful and detailed discussion on major political and cultural issues.

Music credit: Lights by Sappheiros

Presented by: Ryan Shorthouse | Produced by: Anvar Sarygulov